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	<title>Comments on: Notes on Preaching and Small Groups</title>
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		<title>by: kwilson</title>
		<link>http://thoughtpaths.com/archives/166#comment-99</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 00:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Actually Frank, I would at least partially agree with you. Provided that the preaching is in fact foundational and Biblical, then the small group is definitely a good place to expand and explore. However, if the focus is not there then difficulties seem certain, and that would be the basis of my caveats.

First, many, if not most, small groups seem to function at arms length in leadership, physical location and in subject material from the church. Little guidance is in place.

Next, a large percentage of small groups that I have observed are following a fairly simple devotional style booklet of some sort. They are definitely not following a preaching series or textual material with great depth or challenge. There is certainly great fellowship, but the depth of focus varies greatly. This was brought into focus by the recent comments of a brother from another congregation and denomination. He said that the result often was the use of material that was convenient and inexpensive but shallow theologically and even Biblically. He felt that he was attending, reading and discussing, but at the same time going hungry in the Word. This does not seem to be that uncommon, and people may not even realize it. 

Next, the great variance in group leadership depth can (and I say that guardedly since it is not always so) again lead to a lack of depth in the exploration, especially if the sort of program you are suggesting is not being followed as guidance.

All of this points to the needs for accountable oversight at the leadership level, and consistent theological and foundational preaching.

Having said that, however, I will repeat that given the right circumstances and application, the small group concept is not in itself the problem. I suspect from your comments that your experience that been both positive and satisfying, which I applaud.

Your comments are appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Frank, I would at least partially agree with you. Provided that the preaching is in fact foundational and Biblical, then the small group is definitely a good place to expand and explore. However, if the focus is not there then difficulties seem certain, and that would be the basis of my caveats.</p>
<p>First, many, if not most, small groups seem to function at arms length in leadership, physical location and in subject material from the church. Little guidance is in place.</p>
<p>Next, a large percentage of small groups that I have observed are following a fairly simple devotional style booklet of some sort. They are definitely not following a preaching series or textual material with great depth or challenge. There is certainly great fellowship, but the depth of focus varies greatly. This was brought into focus by the recent comments of a brother from another congregation and denomination. He said that the result often was the use of material that was convenient and inexpensive but shallow theologically and even Biblically. He felt that he was attending, reading and discussing, but at the same time going hungry in the Word. This does not seem to be that uncommon, and people may not even realize it. </p>
<p>Next, the great variance in group leadership depth can (and I say that guardedly since it is not always so) again lead to a lack of depth in the exploration, especially if the sort of program you are suggesting is not being followed as guidance.</p>
<p>All of this points to the needs for accountable oversight at the leadership level, and consistent theological and foundational preaching.</p>
<p>Having said that, however, I will repeat that given the right circumstances and application, the small group concept is not in itself the problem. I suspect from your comments that your experience that been both positive and satisfying, which I applaud.</p>
<p>Your comments are appreciated.
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		<title>by: Frank Chiapperino</title>
		<link>http://thoughtpaths.com/archives/166#comment-98</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 23:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>While I agree that preaching should absolutely be biblical, I don't agree that small groups are not an excellent place to communicate, discover and apply biblical truth.  Especially when small groups are focused on discussing the previous weekend teaching it can take learning to a level that is often missed.  Often we see people walk through the doors on Sunday, scribble notes or intently seem to be listening but make zero changes in their behavior.  Unless you are preaching in a house church face to face accountability for every member in a congregation is virtually impossible.  That is because I believe learning biblical truth and life application of that truth should go hand in hand.  If you don't apply it have you really spent the time learning it?  I wonder what God would say if I asked Him if He wanted me to know his truth or live his truth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree that preaching should absolutely be biblical, I don&#8217;t agree that small groups are not an excellent place to communicate, discover and apply biblical truth.  Especially when small groups are focused on discussing the previous weekend teaching it can take learning to a level that is often missed.  Often we see people walk through the doors on Sunday, scribble notes or intently seem to be listening but make zero changes in their behavior.  Unless you are preaching in a house church face to face accountability for every member in a congregation is virtually impossible.  That is because I believe learning biblical truth and life application of that truth should go hand in hand.  If you don&#8217;t apply it have you really spent the time learning it?  I wonder what God would say if I asked Him if He wanted me to know his truth or live his truth?
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